The Montauk... Time -Line Engineers? Germans Create Time/Space
Rift in 1931
The following posts were sent by an individual who claims to be native to a
"world-line" where the U.S.A. did not take part in World War II.
There are some Montauk project investigators
such as Michael Ash who state that the
Montauk Project had sent agents back in
time to help Great Britain AND America win the war against Germany.
Could THIS current time/world-line
be the result of time-travel manipulation?
OR, could it be that some of the agents
working at Montauk who were affiliated with Germany, went back in time
and helped Germany to win the war, essentially creating another world-line?
Whatever the case, read on and form your own
The following source believes that HIS timeline is the original due to
various inconsistencies that he has observed in our world, and that OURS is
an engineered reality.
Alex Collier on the other hand states that
the "Zenatae" people with whom he is in contact also confirmed that there is
a German Empire timeline however that OUR timeline is the original, yet the
Zenatae "Andromedans" ALSO state that THIS is essentially the second time
around, i.e. that there was a timeline
before THIS one was created [by the Montauk Project], the creation
of this world-line having changed the 5th dimensional reality of the
So what is the TRUE reality?
Or is reality like a hologram of a TREE?
... that is, are all the "branches"
connected at the subtle levels yet one will "see" a different "reality"
depending on what "branch-perspective" they are looking at!?.
Could the creation of multiple timelines by
temporal manipulation on the part of the Montauk projects lead to some
kind of unraveling of the linear third dimension itself, perhaps around
the year 2012 as some have suggested?
The individual source of this information will
be identified only as "ProfessorPhate":
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:37:43 -0600 (CST)
Thank you for your gracious if overwhelming reply. I can only hope that I
have the intellectual stamina to co-ordinate the expression of my thoughts
as well as you have deployed yours. Because of other demands I will be
obliged to respond to your e-mail in a piece-meal fashion, but eventually
I will address, in however a circuitous route, as many of the topics as I
The paucity in my personal experience of different world-lines makes me
incapable of attributing the primacy of origin or determination to one as
opposed to another. Indeed, as I am increasingly coming to suspect, that
may be ultimately a meaningless question. Although, by circumscribing
one's set of references, a diligent observer could discern a genealogy.
Any person who has transposed from their aboriginal world-line to an
alternative can automatically, by virtue of their discrepant nature,
evaluate the comparative stability or 'solidity' of the two. At least,
this is my vouchsafed experience.
This natural talent or expertise is perhaps
not germane to, and probably obfuscates, any attempt to ascertain a family-tree.
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:25:58 -0600 (CST)
To continue.... Another aptitude that is acquired by a transposer
is a psychic sensitivity which I call (and this is possibly a misnomer)
chronopathy, i.e.: the ability to detect locales where there is a
temporal discontinuity. This has a variety of formats. What might be
indicated is a site of unusual temporal integrity or intensity in
comparison to it's surroundings. Or a configuration that is peculiarly
related to a counterpart on another time/world-line, and thus has a higher
potential to facilitate a physical transfer between the two tracks.
There are doubtlessly other determinations
which can be gleaned and a superintending gestalt that I do not yet
understand. In my experience, an overcast day is the most conducive
condition or prerequisite for reliable and repeated observations; but, on
the other hand, the absence of sunlight, that is to say, the evening
obliterates any sensitivity. On one or two occasions I have discovered in
the full bore of unfiltered sunlight one of these outstanding sites or
Whether this was due to a unique emanation or
an unusual degree of discrimination on my part, or some other variable or
combination of the aforementioned, I cannot say. This year I intend to
begin a cartographical record of these areas. Lastly, alas, I must
acknowledge that in my case I can only espy those emplacements that are
synchronized (in whatever manner or quality) with my own world-line.
As to whether this reveals an intrusion of one
domain upon the other, or a natural or artificial network of gateways... I
do not know. Although I am prone to rampages of speculation, about this
entire matter I am trying to be as circumspect as possible.
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:59:10 -0600 (CST)
Deleting, for the sake of narrative simplicity, my own intricate and
confusing story (that will have to be recounted later), let me expatiate
upon my home world-line.
It is 25 years behind this time-line.
Perhaps the most glaring departure between the two is that the United
States never participated in the Second World War. After the conquest
of Metropolitan France by Germany (and Italy), the British Empire signed
an armistice and subsequent peace-treaty with the Axis powers. A matter
has occurred which unfortunately obliges me to curtail the account very
prematurely. I will resume as soon as I can.
Thanks for your patience.
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:20:09 -0600 (CST)
The provisions of the settlement were actually quite lenient. There was to
be no occupation and the British army was promptly repatriated (there was
no Dunkirk - the war party in the Parliament toppled when the B.E.F. was
bagged in France). And in return for German 'guidance' in British foreign
(and to a lesser degree, domestic) policy and the contribution of a modest
expeditionary force (mainly naval) to the great anti-Bolshevik crusade,
Hitler, to the extreme annoyance of the Italians, personally guaranteed
the integrity of the British Empire (a point not lost on the Japanese
Although Hitler was very partial to Mussolini
as an individual, the German military established a far more intimate
relationship with the English than they ever desired to with their
ostensible Italian allies. Nevertheless, the remnants of the war party, in
the guise of a British-first movement, was able to survive, after a
fashion, as the loyal Parliamentary opposition. Punctuated with violence,
the socialist and labor coalition was suppressed, intimidated, co-opted,
or bought-off. They remain to this day however the source of the English
Resistance (by way of comparison, they are to the United Kingdom what the
Basques are to contemporary Spain in this world-line).
WW II was much less damaging to Britain than
was the case here. A number of nations, especially Australia and New
Zealand, were more pro-Empire than even the English! South Africa became
the 'fascist conscience' of Great Britain, while Canada became the haven
for the disloyal (albeit ineffectual) opposition. India remained the jewel
in the crown; but the sub-continent was a much more fractious place than
it was in the pre-war period. This took longer than I anticipated. It's
time for me to move along again.
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 02:03:06 -0600 (CST)
Before I continue my historical background briefing tomorrow, let me
quickly answer a few of your latest questions.
If you regard any of my information or conjectures meritorious enough,
then by all means post whatever you wish.
On my world-line, during the war many thousands of Jews were
surreptitiously ransomed by concerned parties in the Western Hemisphere.
Otherwise, they and others were gradually
exhausted as slave-labor. It was the maw of inhuman economics that
consumed their lives rather than occultic monomania.
From my 15 year research effort I have concluded that whereas the Germans
may have lost the war on this world, the Nazis and their allies in the
United States definitely won.
Although I learned in 1974 how to physically transfer myself back to my
aboriginal world-line (an opportunity of which I fortunately did not avail
myself), agents there 'grafted' my consciousness upon a duplicate in this
world. A simply made remark that plasters over a great many stumbling
blocks of detail.
I am in general agreement concerning your assertion that dreams can be a
medium of insertion or transference.
But if I may use myself once again as a
totally unrepresentative statistical sample, in my experience (which I
have undergone only a few times), it is a 'trance' state even deeper than
the usual oneiric condition that actually propels one into an authentic
alternative world. One would realize that you have transposed if, in your
dream, all of your senses, self-awareness, and perhaps most importantly
critical reflectiveness are as active as they are when you are 'awake'.
Ordinarily, these faculties are non-existent,
suppressed, or diminished in the dream-state.
In any case, when an 'immigrant' returns their
consciousness to their home world-line they experience an ineffable re-synchronization
or 'aptness' that throws into glaring relief how 'unreal' their other life
Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:13:10 -0600 (CST)
As if attempting to subdue China wasn't a sufficient strain upon Japan's
resources, beginning in May 1939 they found themselves in an ever
expanding war with the Soviet Union. Being so preoccupied on the the
mainland of Asia the Japanese Empire couldn't even seriously entertain a
general offense against the United States or even the vestigial European
colonial powers (particularly since they were now the clients of Germany).
With Britain and Japan thus removed as instigators, the interventionist
cause collapsed in America. Even after the invasions of the Soviet Union
the consensus of the citizenry was:
"It's far away... they might all kill each
other off... what about us?"
A degree of artificial prosperity was
generated by the expansion of the armed forces (less than undertaken by
your country during WW II, but stupendous compared to the pre-war levels
of either world-line) and more decisively by the elaboration of the
The dominant isolationist faction accepted the
conversion of the United States into Fortress America, and the
internationalists had to be content with arranging for the hemispheric
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:00:09 -0600 (CST)
It wasn't until approximately 1960 that the United States was able to
surmount the pitfalls created by the Great Depression. We did not
enjoy the unique and tremendous economic advantages that allowed the
America of this world-line to so spectacularly flourish. There was little
transfer of hard assets (principally undertaken by Great Britain in your
time-line) to our coffers. There was no post-war worldwide captive market
for our exports and investments.
And there was no returning throng of potential
consumers prepared to re-vitalize the domestic economy. Consider the
ramifications of that last absent phenomenon. We didn't have a baby-boom!
There was no demographic displacement to the suburbs (of course there was
some inevitable expansion in that direction)! On the other hand, we too
have an interstate highway system-and one completed earlier than yours (facilitates
troop-movements you know).
Our material quality of life would seem
Spartan, somewhat shabby, and rather technologically unsophisticated to
you (even allowing for the 25 year discrepancy in our 'temporal velocities'),
but a preservationist would regard my U.S. of A. as a paradise.
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:21:50 -0600 (CST)
I can quickly reply to two of your previous questions before I describe
contemporary conditions on my world-line.
America participated in WW I as it did in your history. And I have no idea
if JFK was assassinated or even if he entered politics. My knowledge of
personalities is non-existent. I have a conjecture as to why that is the
case, but I must cogitate upon it further before I will hazard a thesis.
Currently my world-line has dire expectations for it's future. Imagine
your own world's cold-war at its most truculent-with the equivalent of a
Cuban Missile Crisis occurring two of three times a year. Nerves
are frazzled beneath the surface of denial. The final war is expected-if
not tomorrow or even the day after, then someday and soon. At least in the
United States, people eagerly (if not desperately) lose themselves in the
intricacies of ordinary life.
Let me set the international scene.
After the conquest of European Russia, the gruesome colonization of their
frontier - the Ostmark, the giddiness of recasting the architectural face
of Greater Germany, the self-indulgence abetted by plunder and triumph,
and the glorification of the fatherland not experienced since 1871, the
Third Reich is obviously the pre-eminent, if not pre-dominant, world power.
And although the technocrats believe the
future for Germany is in continuing it's monopoly of space exploration and
colonization, the latest generation of occultic ideologues are on the
verge of successfully promoting a renewal of war in order to acquire the
sacred Aryan homeland of Central Asia.
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:25:53 -0600 (CST)
To continue and I hope complete my most generalized recounting of the
international situation on my world-line....
India has become a running sore for Great Britain. Very little of the
Indian Army would be available for overseas deployment and that otherwise
large military assets is just about the only enticement for the British to
remain. Everyone expects them to abandon the sub-continent soon and let (greater)
India return to it's pre-conquest Balkanized condition. Canada is
independent in all but name; and, of course, a somewhat dismembered France
(at the connivance of the Germans) is attempting with considerable success
to incite the secessionist sentiments of Quebec. Justifiably, the Empire
has become increasing paranoid about Japan.
The 'new Roman Empire' of Italy has settled (or sunk) into quiescence.
Of all the former Axis powers, Japan suffered the greatest losses,
expenditure of capital, and realized the least from its victory. The
Japanese fought the Soviet Union the longest and with the least success.
The spoils of Siberia have not been extracted as thoroughly as they might
because of the under-capitalized Japanese economic infrastructure.
Although as an outlet for the excess population from the home islands, the
'Northern Frontier Zone' has provided one of the few untarnished
consequences of victory.
China has been subdued but in it's subjection
has become a tremendous burden for Japan to control. Perhaps in reaction
to a less than satisfactory (especially compared to Germany) post-war
recovery and as development of pre-war sociological trends, the Japanese
have become even more hysterical in their racial chauvinism than even the
The ruling class has immersed itself in a
nihilistic spiritual creed. Think of a North Korea in command of the
manpower and potential wealth of the Far East and you will have an image
of the condition that obtains in contemporary Japan. It is widely assumed
that the British Empire in the Pacific will be their first target,
followed by the Americans.
One more installment should do it.
with best regards,
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:14:13 -0600 (CST)
America is a garrison state, it has ruthlessly, if not always nakedly,
enforced it's hegemony of the Western Hemisphere. The chronic and
occasionally acute demands of national security have provoked restiveness
in a potion of the public, but for many Americans this is the first era of
relative affluence they have enjoyed since the fabled 1920's and so
they're willing to overlook the fact that the United States is a
Along this world-line Roswell evidently never happened and thus Col. Corso
(or his counterpart) didn't insinuate retro-engineered alien technology
into our commercial infrastructure. The subsequent social revolution that
this world-line underwent never occurred on my home-world. Although the
sophistication of our computers is many technical generations behind yours,
my America is our world's leader in the development of 'electronic
A frantic Great Britain has at last succeeded in prying the United States
loose from it's official foreign policy of autarkic isolationism (of
course we regard South America and the rest of North America as our
economic and political preserve-and there has been for 50 years a tight,
if unacknowledged, collusion between the plutocracies of Germany and the
There is a de-facto alliance between
the British Empire and America to repel the impending Japanese onslaught.
Germany is expected to opportunistically revive it's drive to the east
bringing it on a collision course with the Empire of Nippon. However
oblique the motives and goals of the 'allies' may be they have the power
to defeat Japan. But defeat isn't enough. Japan is sufficiently strong to
be a vortex capable of dragging everyone else down. And on my world-line
there will be no hesitation about depleting the super-weapons in every
I have now at last finished conveying the highlights of my home-world's
modern history and contemporary situation. I apologize for any pedantry,
but without providing some background my own story is incomprehensible.
as always, with best regards,
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:53:31 -0600 (CST)
If one must identify a single divergency-tangent (a descriptive
model that I am increasingly coming to regard as a distorting over-simplification)
between our world-lines, it would be the Japanese reaction to the
humiliating defeat inflicted upon them by the Soviet Union in the battle
of Khalkin-Gol or the Nomohan Incident that concluded on the 31st of
I just don't know if there was a
Montauk Project or even a Philadelphia Experiment
on my world-line. It is obvious to me however that some party or parties
in that United States has the power to implant my psyche into this world-line
and to communicate with me as required. I was dispatched on a mission and
I can only presume, let me reiterate, presume that I wasn't sent here
I'm just the tip of a very long tail.
Perhaps my remarks concerning the issue of the
primacy and derivativeness of world-lines was elliptical, too off-handed,
or so embedded textually as to be understandably overlooked. I never
intended to imply that I regarded my home-world as the original; in fact,
I have come to consider the question of which time/world-line was the
first as a meaningless one. However, for reasons previously mentioned, I
have ascertained that this world-line, compared to my own (the only basis
of comparison I have) is profoundly far-fetched and volatile.
Insofar as I can determine, if one must ascribe a single initial
divergence (another practice about which I have become highly dubious) it
would be the success in your history of the Dee-Kelly Enochian Workings
This instability has been subsequently reinforced by the passing of the
Dark Satellite (1881), the Montauk Project (insert your own
dates), the detonation of a teratological bomb by the U.S. (1993), and God
knows what else. As for being a multiversal cross-roads.... whatever
this world-line was originally, it sure is one now.
If I can keep up, more latter and best regards,
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:36:18 -0600 (CST)
We certainly have our nuclear arsenals (and the United States possesses a
'Maginot Line' of particle beam towers-which I suspect is what has
principally deterred Germany from attacking America).
I am unaware of a Bermuda Triangle or its counterparts on my world.
This is an expression of my ignorance - nothing else is implied.
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:25:43 -0600 (CST)
The question of doubles is a vexing one. Although I am very inclined to
answer no, I feel that if I did so an important qualification or aspect
would be swept under the rug. I'm sorry that I don't have a facile reply,
but this is another mystery about my situation which perplexes me.
No PBS or cable, but our commercial networks are more numerous. The
broadcasting emphasis is upon local and national 'niche-programming' much
as it was in the early 50's on this world-line. In content, it's never
moved too far away from it's foundation in radio. A rut I guess, however
we never had to wait for the latest programming fad to recede either. By
the way, the movie studios received an anti-trust exemption (it was in the
'national interest' to have that propaganda mill undisturbed) and so the
movie industry never underwent the wrenching restructuring that here it
suffered through for 30 years.
Insofar as I can ascertain, our industrial style and the pace of
alteration is extremely modest or conservative compared to flurry of
change and temporary domination of a given fashion that we experience. On
my world-line, the American civilian economy, although robust, just
doesn't have the elasticity and self-indulgent abundance that is so
staggering on your world.
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:35:01 -0600 (CST)
Our most advanced American cars are lower, wider and more curvaceous than
those with which we are familiar. The new Beetle is very reminiscent of
our automobile designs. We didn't have to endure fins, compact cars, or...
ahh... Japanese imports.
In apparel, societal strictures have prevented the flood of informality
that has inundated the costuming here. The uniforms of subcultures (Goth,
gangsters, etc.) that have proliferated in this America are, insofar as
they exist at all, marginal and when they surface regarded with suspicion
by the mainstream culture.
What we know as 'casual dress' is about as
casual as it gets.
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:04:45 -0600 (CST)
I have previously alluded to the fact that on my world-line there is a
substantial collaboration between the American plutocracy and the
technocratic faction of the German ruling-class. I am, of course, not
privy to the intimate particulars of this arrangement.
Ironically, it was probably this alliance that forestalled fatal conflict
between the Third Reich and the United States.
So your intuition Alan is quite correct.
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:42:40 -0600 (CST)
To reiterate: the most valuable resource 'possessed' by this planet, the
one which attracts in ever increasing numbers visitors from throughout
the multiverse, is its metaphysical and empirical eccentricity.
The strain of improbability, indigenous to all world-lines, is unusually
and significantly pronounced in this one. Activities can be undertaken
here that are prohibitively difficult on the operator's home-world,
Discoveries, inventions, experiments, etc., which, if possible at all,
would require exorbitant time and labor to even attempt on another-more
staid-world can be performed on this planet, at this time, with
Unfortunately, every such act (and indeed the
insertion of the 'alien' perpetrator himself) increases the instability of
this world-line. Improbabilities compound themselves until, if you will,
the speculative bull market crashes. I would be surprised if there weren't
numerous native-born humans who aren't exploiting this condition as well.
Whatever else obtains that would contribute to
the explanation of this planet's current condition, this is the situation
as I understand (and have been given to understand) it to be.
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:00:56 -0500 (CDT)
Regrettably [****], I am unable to answer the vast majority of your
questions, and the rest only in a generality. For example, organized
religion in my America still has an elaborate and intimate community or
neighborhood presence generally throughout the country.
Remember, the Sixties never happened on my world; and the social
alterations which happened so precipitously and irresistibly here have
proceeded, shall we say, more sedately or diffidently from where I come.
But as to the details of how our scriptures differ from yours... I have no
idea. I presume - or take for granted - that until the divergency in
1939 the minutiae of daily life were identical on both worlds.
This is my problem (well, one of them): something more substantial than my
consciousness but (I presume-once again, as usual) something less
encompassing than my soul was 'transferred' involuntarily from my
aboriginal world to this one. This happened when I was six years old (on
both worlds). I first became aware of my 'dislocation' when I was eight
years of age (on this world-line of course). How much does a six year old
remember about anything? How much can anyone forty-six years later
reliably remember of one's infancy? And how much survived the 'abolition'
Besides, I am now a fully integrated
personality. The only direct knowledge I have of my home-world has been
gleaned from those few occasions when my astral body has been retrieved by
my 'superiors' in order to reinforce my conditioning (it isn't my
intention to convey the impression that this is a sinister procedure - the
grief engendered by ontological nostalgia is more than sufficiently
persuasive in cementing one's attention). The historical information that
I have imparted devolves from a 'briefing' that those responsible for my
condition and mission 'super-imposed' upon me (again, as reinforcement).
So my knowledge is maddeningly general and abstract on the one hand, and
overly particular but severely constrained on the other.
So, although I will try to be as forthcoming
as possible, I hope you will appreciate my limitations.
with the very best of regards,
[Note: the following post was in
response to claims made by Alex Collier that the Germans created a time/space
rift in 1931 as a result of time-travel experimentation, allowing the
"Greys" to enter our reality from the future (of an "earlier" time/world)
and begin to engage in temporal manipulation along this world-line - Alan]
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:35:56 -0500 (CDT)
Okay, I'm not quite sure if I am most directly addressing Alan or Alex,
but in any case....
When I first read this post I a priori dismissed the possibility
raised within. However upon reflection, my initial reaction was prejudiced
If the Germans are experimenting with time machines upon my world-line (and
I have no indication that they are, but there is also no reason for me to
be privy to such machinations - I couldn't resist the pun), I imagine that
the means of acquiring temporal technology was as follows.
Presuming that the Germans (whoever that might really be - for example,
instead of the Nazi's equivalent of the Manhattan Project, it could be the
undertaking of an isolated faction) are aware of this world-line and can
also insert their agents into it, at some junction along the post-1931
timeline of this earth, they contact those Germans engaged in
Because, as I have previously posted, your
world-line is much more susceptible to paranormal exploitation the
possibility of succeeding in such experiments is significantly greater and
easier. After learning all they can, these hypothetical agents are then
extracted and returned to my home-line... and the mischief begins anew.
Elements of this scenario could be altered for it to be equally plausible,
but this version seems to be the most sensible to me.
However, let me reiterate, I know of no evidence to justify it's
supposition. Quite frankly, although I must begrudgingly intellectually
concede the possibility described in your post, emotionally I don't want
to have anything to do with it.
But that's a bad reflection upon me, not you.
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:57:32 -0500 (CDT)
Dear Alan and et al,
Regrettably, my specific knowledge of my home-line depends upon a collage
of childhood memories, casual re-observation, 'attuned' inferences, and
the statements of my superiors.
I am unable, therefore, to reply directly to your inquiry; but obliquely I
can say this: it is my impression/understanding that most other world-lines,
are above all else, concerned with maintaining their own stability, their
own hum-drum persistence and progression, if you will.
This world-line (and others like it) is regarded as a fascinating, useful,
and horrible example of what happens when temporal/ontological
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:37:06 -0500 (CDT)
Since the discussion of parallel worlds, including most of the
concepts and terminology associated with this topic, originated in the
popular culture of science-fiction and comic books, I thought I should
bring this to your attention.
The role-playing company TSR for its game Alternity has published a
supplement entitled Tangents. It is a source book which describes
in considerable detail their theory of alternate worlds and the technology
used to travel from one world-line to another. Of course, most of the
material is only pertinent to and phrased in terms of the game system;
nevertheless, some of you might find the conjectures contained therein to
be stimulating and useful.
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:42:32 -0500 (CDT)
Dear Alan, friends, and lurkers,
My apologies for the tardiness of my reply to the question you posed on
the 18th of last month, but I have been recovering from a nasty spot of
My 'overseers', as you have felicitously characterized them, treat me as a
more or less involuntary agent, and thus, I can only make informed
inferences about their nature and purpose. I have been told that the
American government will be the beneficiary of the information that I
accrue upon this world.
From this I surmise that they are, to some
degree at least, working for the government in some intelligence gathering
and/or military capacity. Their purview seems to be circumscribed to these
areas of interest and whatever I (and others sent from my original world-line)
glean will be dedicated to the impending war effort [against the Germanic
'empire' which threatens the 'other' world-line ? - Alan].
They may have the know-how to be a 'quantum
police force', but insofar as I can tell, they have no motivation or
inclination to behave as such.
with best regards,
(Note: the following are more
recent posts from ProfessorPhate, to the members of a 'time travel email
list' years ago)
Date: Mon Jul 31, 2000 11:39am
Subject: Re: Inquiries was Re: Al Bielek video
To all that this may concern,
I haven't, until about five minutes ago, taken the time to read the
messages posted on this forum for the last two days. I believe that Joni
is, with gracious reticence, referring to me as the one who has asserted
that I am a transplant from an alternate Earth. It was not my intention (rather
my inattention) to artificially create suspense concerning when or if I
would reveal my identity.
If Mr. Hamilton and the others who have
expressed interest in my story (for which, honesty in advertising compels
me to admit I have not an iota of evidence) would consult the archives of
this list (perhaps the list-master could be of assistance) many of their
inquiries should be addressed; if not, I think (cross your fingers) I have
my primary statement on file and could arrange to reproduce it here for
general edification (or entertainment, as the case may be).
There is not much more that I currently have
to add to the aforementioned archived report except to say, that based
upon a certain series of disclosures which have been tendered to me in the
last year, I am becoming persuaded that this Earth may have more exiles,
agents, or what-have-you from alternative Earths walking around than I
have hitherto believed.
If I can be of any assistance in providing
further elucidation about my own situation or this topic in general I am
at your disposal.
Dear Mr. Hamilton, et al,
As I read your recent message I couldn't remember posting such interesting
material, and then it occurred to me that perhaps you are alluding to Mr.
Walton's (and may he soon rejoin us) remarks which became entangled with
my own; this is understandable since my supplementary elaborations
appeared in a dialogue with the estimable Mr. Walton. Nevertheless,
although we will have to await his exposition of the 'Time War' and the
5th dimension, I can address your other inquiries.
Once again, I shall try to clarify a misunderstanding which hitherto I
have never been able to correct: to the best of my knowledge I never
claimed that my Earth was the prototype - indeed, I recall declaiming (perhaps
a mite too dismissively or at least testily) that such a search is
impossible and pointless. However... I did assert that from my perspective
this Earth is an artificially or unnaturally deviated counterpart in
comparison to, if you will, the set of 'natural' permutations.
I, of course, can reasonably be accused of
special-pleading but that is the situation as understand it to be.
Chronologically, my Earth is about a quarter of century behind this one;
technologically, with a number of exceptions, perhaps forty years behind
yours - well, ours - and in its culture generally between forty and fifty.
If you have found it, the particulars are dealt with in my 'position paper'.
Although I am hesitant to employ terminology gleaned from pop-culture,
simply because the allegorical correspondences begin to break down rather
quickly and it becomes, in any case, a narrow and inhibiting framework for
discussion (loved the movie though! - and Dark City is a must see!!), let
me just baldly state that as a principle I regard the astral domain
as 'The Matrix' (although with no imputation of malevolent Neo-Gnostic
deception and oppressiveness) and in its fundamental function the
equivalent of the state vector of quantum physics.
And from this (he said in his best imitation
of Orson Welles as The Shadow) many portentous consequences follow.
Well, I hope some of this helps.
(Woman complained about his lingo)
Superfluous, Judith... never, convoluted... so
a number of my friends say. Okay, at the risk of stepping into the same
bear-trap that I kept telling myself to avoid....
Let me try this: the astral domain is The Matrix, the archetypal program
that can be re-programmed to project any given simulation of reality into
the minds of its percipients. My earth, our earth, an earth where Mickey
Mouse rules the world, and all the other conceivable and inconceivable,
possible and impossible earths are specific concrete variations of this
Now left to itself this entire process proceeds according to natural
metaphysical laws, or so metaphysicians and theologians reassure us.
But the human, inhuman, and non-human will can, according to the same
sources, intervene and alter the code. This can amount to a
violation of, a temporary suspension of, or if he or she or it is really
good, the reconstitution of 'natural physical laws'. When this happens
it's called magic, divine intervention, Montauk, and a thousand and one
other things (depending on the originating agent(s) or agency); or as a
contemporary scientist might say (and as the relatively - in these circles
- conservative physicist Evan H. Walker did say) - here comes the
jargon - highly sustained willpower results in the collapse of the state
vector on the macroscopic scale at an extremely improbable level.
Now, if you have one or more parties in
command of the psychological technology (in want of a better phrase),
on this world or any other, necessary to so re-order the reality of any
given group of sentients you don't have so much, as Mr. Walton says, Time-Wars,
as Reality Wars. That, in a nutshell-perhaps one with a very thick
covering and a very small nut - is why we are experiencing the real
Okay, any better?
Because you were the first to submit a daunting list of questions to I
shall address this response to you, although of course all who have
expressed interest in my statements are being kept in mind (and yes Judith
I do speak like this, sometimes to the consternation of my friends-I guess
I am a hopeless captive of a 19th century literary temperament).
I see that Starfire Tor also has some
coordinated inquiries, and if I may ask for his indulgence, I will try to
answer his at the soonest available opportunity. My place of business is
starting to move this week, wonderfully coinciding with a quarter of the
staff leaving for vacation so I am suddenly having to cover the shifts of
a number of other workers and so I'm afraid my stamina is being a bit over-taxed.
So my apologies to all if my replies are even less satisfactory than usual.
A prefatory note: I'm afraid that drove Mr. Walton to a state of
disappointment and exasperation (if not aggravation) when I attempted to
answer his questions. Regretfully, and no one feels this more keenly than
I do, any elucidation of mine is severely constrained by the amount of
information that I can bring to bear on the questions mustered by the list
members. Irrespective of whether or not my assertions are judged to be
self-delusional (if not indicative of a psychotic fugue), a hoax, a
egomaniacal campaign to stimulate attention, or what-have-you, my
storehouse of 'facts' or 'information' is almost devoid of goods; and I
cannot confabulate anything beyond that limitation.
I will try to, as thoroughly as I can, answer
any questions but the data you seek just may not be available to me (this
is why I contacted Mr. Walton in the first place and joined this list,
i.e., in the hope that in the recounting of someone else's story I might
find something to illuminate the very dark corners of my own). So if my
responses seem to be unresponsive, vague, abstract, mere generalities, I
can only express my regret for having falsely inflating your expectations
and then wasting your time.
I infer from the context of my experience that my 'superiors' (and I place
the italic marks around that word to indicate my ironic and very
ambivalent attitude towards them) are a quasi-government group in my home-world
America. By this I mean they are, as best as I can judge, either a deep
black-ops agency deliberately lost in the bureaucratic paperwork, or an
independent association with intimate one-way (them-to-it) ties to the
government. It is my impression that the latter is closer to the truth.
Our communication is entirely initiated from their end. On those rare
occasions when it has occurred the medium of transmission has been my
dream-state. Now, I don't have to be psychic to predict what may now be
the reaction of the more skeptical among you. Believe me, if I was in your
position my head would be shaking as well and what follows would be
classified as "Case Closed".
But, in order to preserve the integrity of my
experience and the feasibility of my claims let me, at this time, hope
that this clarification is sufficient to offset the understandable qualms
one or more of you may be having about the bother of reading further. When
I have these 'episodes' the panoply of my senses are engaged (very much
unlike the ordinary dream-state, at least mine) and indeed, at a pitch of
lucidity and vivacity greater than my waking-state. This condition is
exclusively extant during these times.
It is as if, and this is how I interpret it or
choose to interpret it, I am returning to the psycho-physical matrix to
which I was aboriginally attuned and to which I am briefly re-integrated.
It's a peculiar form of a heightened state of consciousness. Without
further flailing about in, what must shortly become for all of you, a
tedious attempt to describe this singular state, let me just conclude by
saying that it's nature is such as to throw it into contrast with every
other state of consciousness that I ordinarily experience.
So, unless I am dealing with an eccentric
neurological disorder-a possibility which I must acknowledge even if I
vehemently reject it-the phenomenal validity is vouchsafed for me because
of the aforementioned comparisons which I can tabulate. Well, as Judith,
my stylistic conscience, might point out I am becoming garrulous-and here
I haven't even finished answering your second question!
I beseech your patience and I will resume soon.
It would be helpful if I replied to your questions Maverick in the order
given... ahh, literacy-what a concept-I've got to try it some time. I
jumped from inquiry number one to three. I will try to be more attentive
in the future.
Most specifically, my sponsors (if you will) want me to discover what
methods have been developed on this fraternal earth (if I may expropriate
C.D. Hoit's most felicitous characterization - kudos!) to biologically
enhance the human body/mind to suprahuman levels. Or to render it another
way, to deliberately punctuate Stephen Gould's 'evolutionary equilibrium'.
If Marverick you have been able to download my historical overview I think
you would join me in concluding that they wish to apply whatever I have
gleaned to improving the military capabilities of their America.
Frankly, I don't begrudge them this at all
more soon, and I won't be reading any more posts on this list until I
answer your questions, otherwise I will be spinning off on so many
digressions that I'll never get back. And then on to Starfire Tor. If you
and he have taken the time and effort to solicit my responses (however
inadequate and unsatisfying they may be), the least I can do is to stay
focused on one compendium at a time.
Oh, and best regards,
Dear Maverick and all,
At the risk of, as usual, leaving myself hanging from an expostulary
thread, let me slip in a few remarks before I go to work.
The contact in my sleep might be more exactly described as an extraction.
I believe (and their might be a more accurate explanation of this
phenomenon but this is the one which makes the most sense to me) that a
very deeply embedded hypnotic program is stimulated by my superiors on
these occasions which enables them to 'pull out' the self than originated
on my fraternal earth, realign its frequency of being so that it conforms
to the resonance of their reality, and then communicate whatever it is
they wish to impart; presumably the process is then reversed and my
aboriginal self is then 'reinserted' or allowed to flow back into the host-my
dopple-ganger on this world.
That is why I am sympathetic towards and
prejudiced in favor of at least some of
assertions (Mr. Hamilton's disquietude about his account not withstanding),
especially those concerning the 'soul-grafting' (my phrase not his, and
probably a poor one) which he and others have had performed upon them.
Well, I'm up against the unyielding clock and I'm off for the day. I wish,
oh do I dearly wish, I could be more exact and detailed in my rendition
Maverick but this is about the best I can do.
Maybe when I take on your further questions I
can give a more satisfactory reply.
Good morning Maverick and whomever else is
still slogging through this with me,
To provisionally conclude my response to your question about the "communication
pathway", let me hasten to add that my reversions to my home-world are
hardly frequent or periodic. In my entire life I have only been returned
three times, although on the first occasion, the episode was protracted
over several weeks. However, I have (again, technically in a dream state)
subconsciously projected my self into, or been supinely attracted by the 'gravitational
pull' of, or whatever, my fraternal planet.
The second time I was withdrawn by my
superiors I was admonished that such a spontaneous, involuntary, or
surreptitious 'snapping-back' was very reckless and hazardous (to me, to
the mission, to them, to the space-time equilibrium-I don't know, as usual,
I was told as little as necessary) and not to do it again-for whatever
reason I haven't.
This might be the right place to interpolate the sequence of the procedure
whereby I 'arrived' on the world. On my fraternal earth I was an adult (and
no, I don't remember any personal details-when I have made an unauthorized
return I seem to be incessantly touring my home city - a rough analogue to
the one I live in here - I think in an attempt to 'touch-base' with
something tangible, familiar, in the hope of recovering some personal
information from that period of my life), that personality was distilled
and regressed to the age of six (this is about to become even more bizarre,
inconsistent, and demented sounding but this is what they told me).
I was then projected into, or grafted upon
(insert your own preferred designation) the being of my dopple-ganger, who
was approximately the same age (I can 'verify' this because I acutely
recall the exact instant-literally-when I realized, at the age of eight,
that I wasn't from this world and that something was very askew'; I don't
know if the epiphany coincided with the introduction of my base or
previous personality or if that fact had taken that long to percolate to
the top of, ahh..., my consciousness.
Then I was informed that when I obtained the
information they sought I would be extracted, rejoined with my six year
old self (although with the intellectual maturity of a ten year old, I
suppose due to the subconscious presence of the life-time experiences of
two adults) allowed to naturally age to about the age of fourteen and then
debriefed and my 'package' retrieved. Sounds stupid, doesn't it. And as
for all those loose ends... I have absolutely no idea what happens to them
or how to reconcile the multiple paradoxes. I am equally ignorant
concerning the instrumental details of how all this is done, or why it is,
or has to be, done that way.
As I have said before, I am the very tip of a
very long tail, so my perspective isn't the most panoramic.
Dear Maverick, and all whose further inquiries
and comments I hope to address in order of appearance before the
expiration of the decade,
Apropos your recommendation of the term 'aberrant'. As I've indicated,
upon reading C.D.Hoit's characterization ('fraternal world'), I have
adopted his usage in lieu of the one you proposed. Nevertheless, your own
coinage is an especially apt description of this earth's categorical
status, and if I might, without sowing terminological confusion, I would
like to reserve for potential application the adjective 'aberrant' for
worlds (I hope few in number) that can be so classified.
Apparently, I am indeed asserting that these aberrant worlds (in your
sense) are inhabited by soul-filled entities, just as the 'real' (?) world
does. Of course, although I have had recourse to this designation myself,
it's presence in this conversation makes me uncomfortable, simply because
so many sects, denominations, philosophers, and spiritual traditions have
so many differing definitions of this ontological component - the
existence of which is for so many people, in any case, hypothetical at
best. But the barn door was imprudently opened by me, so....
When you asked: "What is the interface that allows for the detection of
and the connection to targeted souls to fuze?", I am moved to clarify the
entire context of this issue.
All of the material dealt with by me in that
post concerns a secret society on this world. The last time I was 'summoned
home' I had a very anomalous encounter with my superiors. On this unique
occasion, the discussion had nothing to do with my standing mission. I was
shown a film, accompanied by a briefing (the sources of the content of
that post), and told to garner as much additional information as rapidly
as possible. I inferred that another agent or agents furnished them
initially with what data they possessed because the topic was a surprise
I surmised that they were very disturbed by
the scope and activities of this fraternity because of its potential to
destabilize the existential adamancy of their own world. Perhaps they also
are trepidatious about the competitive prowess of this group. I threw out
what they knew in the hope that someone could fill in a blank there, add a
detail here, etc. Nothing came of it; and to me it was just another job,
and a digressive one at that. But I must acknowledge, in my judgment,
their acute concern is justified.
"Are your 'superiors' using souls, in the
aberrant world, to restructure the matrix in the aberrant world... the
I'm sorry but I cannot begin to answer that
question. I doubt if any conjecture on my part, which you weren't
soliciting anyway, would be much more insightful than your own.
more soon and with best regards,
Hello list members,
"Please identify and expand. Only through specifics can we share a useful
communication." (Maverick was so pushy he repeated this throughout his
entire grilling of Prof. he was so specific he got kicked off
And if they were to be had they would be yours.
The only meager addition, a clarification actually, is that this secret
society has franchises, if I can be excused the flippancy, at the time of
the original post, on four fraternal worlds, including this earth where it
apparently originated. I would presume, given what information I did
receive (imparted to me with unusual thoroughness), that in the
interim they have considerably expanded.
This briefing was the last, or latest, contact
I have had with my home-world. As the perspicacious have noticed, there is
a very messy issue of differing temporal flow-rates, so if my assumption
is factually correct, my sponsors may have an altogether different
perspective. I can only reiterate that, at the time ( :-) ) it was sudden
and very apprehensive development.
Well Maverick, in the absence of an autobiography, that's the rest of the
story insofar as your (initial?) list of questions is concerned. Perhaps
contained therein something of value or interest was gleaned by you and
the others. All complaints are to be directed to parties unknown on a
world far far away.
I will now return to the message board and reply, in rotation, to any
further inquiries submitted by the list members. Thank you all for your
courteous interest and I hope I didn't find my way into too many kill-files.
Well Starfire, they have never used the
Internet to communicate with me, probably because the Internet, PC's, and
even WebTV have not, I suppose, even been imagined on my home-world. No
Roswell, no Corso, no transistors... nifty death-ray citadels though. But
if you will read the last chapter of "The Electric Connection
- Its Effects on Mind and Body" by Michael Shallis I think
you will discover some germane, albeit disquieting, observations on the
topic of what can use the Internet to initiate communication.
I trust that I have been able to elaborate upon, if not satisfactorily
answer, a number of your subsequent questions. As to whether or not I
believe that "...magick and the occult sciences
play a real role in the working of the matrix", I most emphatically
do, especially here!
To the best of my knowledge (and this only refers to the research that I
have conducted) only the works of John Bennett (sp?) bear some
relevance to the issue of the historical origins of this secret society; I
am reasonably confident in asserting that the Freemasons, Illuminati,
etc. are not involved.
Their objectives (as claimed by themselves or
by their detractors) and methodologies don't seem to be pertinent.
Just let take a moment to reassure you that I am not a member of the
Bielek claque. Unlike Mr. Hamilton, or perhaps yourself, I do not have
the competence (nor frankly, the inclination) to examine the veracity of
his claims. His personal account, nor even his rendition of the P.E./
Montauk Affair (sounds like an old Man From U.N.C.L.E. episode) has any
intrinsic bearing upon my own experiences.
To paraphrase what you said, just because one
can usefully segregate discrete elements from the accounts of the
Montauk Three (or is it Four now?) doesn't compel one to endorse the
remainder. If posterity confirms his version of events, then good for him;
if not, then I trust he realized he couldn't take it with him.
Certain aspects of his story resonate with me
but it is those similarities and not necessarily the man himself which
arouses my attention
My apologies for the tardiness of my replies, and I am afraid they will
continue, for a while, to be sporadic; because of the relocation of my
workplace I have recently been pulling down sometimes triple shifts and
when I return home even turning on the Internet seems to be an unbearable
In your message of 8/4/10:57 A.M., you postulated that there may have been
episodes which I can no longer consciously retrieve. Insofar as the
unilateral initiatives of my superiors are concerned, I don't think so,
the ambience of the event is much to singular for me to forget one.
However, it is possible, although I have tried to monitor these
experiences as assiduously as I can, that I have forgotten one or more of
my 'unauthorized' returns.
It also seems to me that the pseudo-physical
process of retracting me to my home-world is the only method available to
those responsible, at least there has been no indication of any other
means hitherto employed. And yet... I must admit that it would be
reasonable to infer that they have some way to keep themselves apprised of
"Do you have a preference of worlds?"
To most baldly put it: at least subconsciously,
the compulsion to return is the leitmotiv of my life; a fact about which I
am both rueful and considerably ambivalent.
Alas, I must shortly leave for work and I am unable to continue. I hope,
upon my return this evening, I will be able to resume and reply at greater
In your letter of 8/4/10:57 A.M. you asked for a clarification of my
relationship with those I have dubbed 'superiors' and if I am implying a
more specific subordination. Because they were responsible for my
situation, imprinted and reinforced my motivation, and claim to possess
the means of restoring a facsimile of my aboriginal life, I have deemed
them my superiors or sponsors. Nothing else is (knowingly) intended. In
schematic terms, it may not be the most fitting but it seems subjectively
the most apt designation.
I really don't remember a single detail about my adult life on my home-world;
and I truly cannot imagine that any aspect of any of my vocations has the
slightest concordance (other than the sheerly coincidental and trivial)
with any professional attainment upon my fraternal earth. I do however
believe that my vocational interests have been substantially influenced by
my subconscious 're-education'.
You have asked me to untangle some of the sequential conundrums. When I
was an adult on my home-world that state of being was regressed to the
person that I was (on the fraternal earth) at the age of six. This 'composite'
was then alloyed with my counterpart on this world; this had to have been
done before my epiphany at the age of eight (now whether this was done one
second or n-years beforehand, I can't say). It is my impression that I no
longer subsist as an adult on my home-world - indeed, if one could in
synchronization observe both worlds at this moment I don't know what (if
any) tangible presence I would have on my original earth.
You are correct in your recapitulation of the sequence of temporal and
biological relationships which I was told that would eventuate upon my
restoration. Apparently, the "plan to retrieve and terminate the mission...."
has not yet reached the phase of implementation.
I must concede that I am not unsympathetic to the reasonableness of
situating my experience within the psychological model of abuse but it is
not entirely satisfactory to me, after all, for example, a soldiers
relationship to his superior officer can be justly so described but you
must acknowledge there is an extenuating context that undermines the
literal accuracy of such a characterization. Nevertheless, your words bear
reflection on my part.
Let me address the remaining portions of you thoughtful e-mail in the near
Dear Starfire Tor,
I am in-between business trips and as I was trying to swim against the
tide of reading my messages before the heat death of the universe occurs I
encountered yours. And to you as well I hope you will excuse my
laggardness in replying.
The reason why I wanted to draw your attention to "The Electric
Connection" by Michael Shallis was because in
the last chapter he applies Rudolf Steiner's concept of the
Ahrimanic principle to the nature of cybernetics.
He asserts that whereas raw electricity is the
substantial body of Ahriman (a necessary but adversarial
Spirit insofar as the evolution of the human species is concerned) the
computer (and by implication, I suppose, our entire electro-mechanical
infrastructure) is it's functional body.
As you might imagine he does not draw warm and
fuzzy inferences from this supposition. Our computer network is
demonically possessed (to imitate a headline writer for The World
Weekly News). So, if your local library has a copy of this book, a
perusal of the last chapter (although the entire book is worth one's
attention) might lead you to some interesting conjectures about what
forces or agencies can inhabit the Internet, other than the evils of
spammers and trolls of course.
I will respond to the other questions of your letter of the 8th as soon as
From: "Bruce Walton"
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:13:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Digest Number 192
Whereas the possibility of the dissolution of this universe/timeline is
involved, I suspect that it will not happen, because of the following fact.
Our souls/consciousness are like grains which gather a "pearl" of third
density reality around it. So if one wants to destroy our reality/timeline
then they will have to destroy our souls, because I believe that
CONSCIOUSNESS is the building block of the various levels of the Omniverse.
The Montauk Project proved just how
much CONSCIOUSNESS comes into play.
In other words, if our world is a VIRTUAL
REALITY matrix, then our collective souls would be the computer MAINFRAME
that programs the virtual reality matrix. I don't know if you have ever
played the computer game DOOM, but if you are killed in the game all you
have to do is to start the game over, because the monsters in that game
cannot destroy the mainframe itself. I hope that you are able to grasp
where I am coming from.
Any responses to this idea that, as the Hindus say, we live in the "world
of illusion", and that there is a greater consciousness/reality beyond,
would be welcome.
BRuce AlaN walTON
P.S. Just how does the communication between yourself and those on your
aboriginal timeline occur?
Dear Bruce, Nicky, et al,
A few weeks ago, I received a new communication from my 'contacts' (a
woman and two men) on my aboriginal world/time-line. I wish to take this
occasion to impart-for what it is worth-the following information.
I have, in those posts that the redoubtable Nicky recovered and
consolidated several months ago, written of the alleged 'artificiality' or
'unnaturalness' of this world/time-line. I have also commented upon the
fecund susceptibility of this cosmos to existential erosion which
manifests itself in, and is stimulated in turn by, literal paranormal
phenomena. And how the resulting ontological contradictions or
incompatibilities will eventually result in the dissolution of this world/time-line.
A perusal of the relevant digests will amplify upon and detail my remarks.
Let me direct your attention to those archives.
My handlers told me that what Vernor Vinge and others refer to as the
Singularity will trigger the aforementioned event. A bit of
background before you all bring up your search engine of choice. In the
early 90's, the science fiction writer, Vernor expropriated a term from
astrophysics and applied it to an impending and inexorable event.
According to his - and others - calculations, in the year 2035 (although,
in the opinion of the woman in the group, the year 2025) the ever
accelerating climb of the plotted curve of knowledge and technological
implementation of those discoveries will become vertically ascendent.
That point when the curve becomes
perpendicular Vinge called the Singularity. At that juncture, the
pace of change in innovation will become so rapid and unassimilatible that
the world as we knew it becomes unknowable and unpredictable. Although,
believe it or not, there are groups, such as the transhumanists and
the extopians, who salivate over this liberation from the fetters
of history, I'm afraid the sociological implications are very dire.
As any number of academic specialists in the asundry fields of personal
and collective psychology can tell you, when an individual or group is
under the pressure of the stress of unsuccessfully trying to adjust to a
barrage of unanticipated changes, they tend to have a nervous breakdown.
My liaisons believe we, on this world/time-line, will be witnessing and/or
experiencing a catastrophic psycho-demographic collapse which will
powerfully intensify the aforementioned attrition of our existential
Now, let me hasten to clarify, they aren't
asserting that one second after midnight on Jan. 1, 2035 (or whenever) the
universe disappears in a puff of smoke-and then the smoke disappears. It
is one of those a-journey-of-a-thousand-miles-begins-with-a-single-step
sort of things. When the Singularity occurs, the final irrevocable
countdown starts. How long it take to reach zero is ours to guess.
There is a further sub-text to this phenomenon which I need to address
I just thought that someone might want a heads-up.
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